tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post1421094135113484314..comments2024-03-09T05:03:54.979-05:00Comments on Public Transit in Ottawa: Can we have light rail on Bank Street?Peter Raaymakershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10883553886241429786noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-58856134300465011502010-10-21T16:02:02.073-04:002010-10-21T16:02:02.073-04:00Under this proposed plan, you would have two stati...Under this proposed plan, you would have two stations on the same street (i.e. Greenboro and Billings Bridge) that are only about 3.5 km apart but yet not connected. This seems extremely inefficient to me. Why not have the additional track from Greenboro north on Bank to Billings Bridge?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-26212041996563521292010-10-03T20:30:30.592-04:002010-10-03T20:30:30.592-04:00Kevin, you and I are in agreement on this point.
...Kevin, you and I are in agreement on this point.<br /><br />The DOTT ought to be seen as a second phase to what began with the O-Train, and it's my long-term personal hope that LRT - above or below-ground - reaches Orleans, Kanata, and anywhere else that's useful and preferred by our neighbours near and far.Dwight Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14389833479219422837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-25658897357149654472010-10-03T20:08:21.219-04:002010-10-03T20:08:21.219-04:00On a side note, there are a few comments where peo...On a side note, there are a few comments where people seem to be not supporting the DOTT and Lansdowne because it's not where they live. I live in Orleans and I want LRT in Orleans, but the City has to do what's in the best interest of the City. Not putting a tunnel downtown to releave congestion so us people in the suburbs can be happy would be bad leadership. Having LRT in the suburbs, making us happy, while having a whole bunch of congestion downtown isn't good planning.Kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-59535728836532672292010-10-03T20:00:02.496-04:002010-10-03T20:00:02.496-04:00If Bank Street is the main street that it's ma...If Bank Street is the main street that it's marketed as I think LRT would be a great idea. Surface LRT may not releave congestion so I'd be in favour of a tunnel. It seems "tunnel" is a bad word in Ottawa. We need to start thinking generationally. Surface rail may be cheaper today, but if a future council has to revisit the idea of a tunnel because the temporary solution didn't cut it it would actually cost more.Kevin Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-45870446986662842642010-07-15T18:36:32.859-04:002010-07-15T18:36:32.859-04:00The thing is Bank would have to grade-separated so...The thing is Bank would have to grade-separated so the cost alone would make it a non-starter.<br /><br />Other than that it's an alright idea. But it lower on the priority list than finishing the currently planned light rail and maybe building another East-West link on Walkley/Heron. <br /><br />North-South travel while no picnic is usually short distances that are bearable on a bus. East-West distances are longer and should be given more attention first.kEiThZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17922934696198250193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-20398844740506222462010-07-11T00:18:13.580-04:002010-07-11T00:18:13.580-04:00I wish there were redundant buses on Bank Street! ...I wish there were redundant buses on Bank Street! OC Transpo is utterly inept at planning the existing routes 1 and 7. The service frequency is never high enough, the two routes are too often "bunched" in the schedule, and there are at times really stupid "holes" in the schedule when neither bus comes for half-hour stretches at a time. There aren't enough runs with artics devoted to them (40-footers can't handle the load, geniuses), and heaven forbid you try and take a bus to or from a big special event at Landsdowne.WJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08070910923518931583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-72282814911008550742010-07-09T21:55:49.202-04:002010-07-09T21:55:49.202-04:00I am curious about the comment by Anonymous that &...I am curious about the comment by Anonymous that <i>"there's a lot of redundant buses running on Bank Street."</i><br />My impression is that the buses on Bank Street are well-used and that any further development on Bank would put strain on transit service.<br />Bank Street has been designated a "transit priority" route in the Transportation Master Plan. I would like to see what exactly that designation means. As far as I know, there has been no implementation plan for any of the routes designated "transit priority".Brocklebanknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-27528081882202789762010-07-09T19:14:20.355-04:002010-07-09T19:14:20.355-04:00I don't know. Is Bank wide enough? How would i...I don't know. Is Bank wide enough? How would it effect traffic on the rest of the street. It might not be a horrible idea seeing as how there's a lot of redundant buses running on Bank street. <br /><br />I don't think it would be wise to build it just for Landsdowne though. A stadium like this isn't well-suited to the area. It would be better off in the Bayview yards where there is already the O Train and Transitway.<br /><br />Build the transportation first, then build things like stadiums. I don't think this is a great idea.<br /><br />As for a tunnel? No. Absolutely not. We'd be better off building a tunnel from Westboro to Lincoln Fields. The NCC does not want trains on the Parkway and neither do the residents of the area. It's understandable.<br /><br />A tunnel from Lincoln Fields to Westboro would be a better way of spending our money.<br /><br />I'm glad the idea spawned discussion, even if our councilors ignore it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-77834674301522586042010-07-09T15:10:06.808-04:002010-07-09T15:10:06.808-04:00It would probably cost around $1 billion to do it ...It would probably cost around $1 billion to do it underground. Seems expensive, but with hundreds of millions of dollars in potential development, time savings, reduced traffic on streets, etc I think it would easily do well in a cost-benefit analysis. Personally I think either do it underground or don't do it at all...PPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-22656704572239337052010-07-09T15:01:21.542-04:002010-07-09T15:01:21.542-04:00I stand corrected, then. Your suggestion's sti...I stand corrected, then. Your suggestion's still worth debating.Dwight Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14389833479219422837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-22172517568987889512010-07-09T14:50:14.977-04:002010-07-09T14:50:14.977-04:00My idea is not to run it on the surface on O'C...My idea is not to run it on the surface on O'Connor or Kent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-69021194547797683942010-07-09T14:34:23.700-04:002010-07-09T14:34:23.700-04:00Flattered to see the discussion of my idea spreadi...Flattered to see the discussion of my idea spreading far and wide like this!<br /><br />As to the suggestion of running it as a surface LRT route along O'Connor or Kent...well, it's certainly an alternative approach worth consideration and debate.Dwight Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14389833479219422837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-17978221264145037762010-07-09T12:28:51.343-04:002010-07-09T12:28:51.343-04:00If a tunnel, why does it have to be under Bank for...If a tunnel, why does it have to be under Bank for the whole length?<br /><br />One block west, and you can rip up Kent, at least through the downtown and Centretown (and put it back together nicer than when you found it.)<br /><br />One block east, you can do the same to O'Connor, which has the advantage of continuing south into the Glebe, and leads straight into the Landsdowne Park site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-80612103266866349872010-07-09T12:01:33.174-04:002010-07-09T12:01:33.174-04:00Living in Kanta, I'm not a fan of either the t...Living in Kanta, I'm not a fan of either the tunnel or the Landsdown project, but my thinking is that if you are going to do both, connecting Landsdown via LRT is a no-brainer.<br /><br />I'm not saying this particular plan is the one, but if you are contemplating regularly moving large numbers of people to and from Landsdown, this is the mechanism to do it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01287259865905678281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-1125403319652325512010-07-09T11:29:07.157-04:002010-07-09T11:29:07.157-04:00With the recently completed, and presumably planne...With the recently completed, and presumably planned future, Bank St. improvements, is there room to have a segregated LRT track -- and keep the street open to vehicular traffic? I don't think so. So, what we're talking about here is either a streetcar, which wouldn't really provide any increase in service over buses (although I would argue that permanent transit infrastructure has definite advantages), or an LRT tunnel, right? Sign me up for the latter. Expensive yes, but we need to start looking at transit investments as more than just ways to get suburban commuters into the downtown core.evenstevennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7218149071529011844.post-75620308501350070972010-07-09T10:08:26.032-04:002010-07-09T10:08:26.032-04:00no! what a horrible idea! more clutter, and stop...no! what a horrible idea! more clutter, and stop-in-go! keep it underground! don´t be a cheapskate, because you are going to end up paying even MORE down the road (no pun intended)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com